An unsuccessful div2 and a deleted ETF2L account.
Not exactly what started the world wars, but it’s enough to shake up our friendly neighborhood TF2. I don’t know much about running a league, what I do know is that it’s a mammoth task. It’s about creating a fair framework for a few thousand different people. I also know it’s literally hours of ungrateful, unpaid work every day.
I don’t want to take away the discussion of league formats, nor the discussion of an admin team’s decisions. But I would like to ask for a more constructive approach than to flock up on working out who was wrong. Because, let’s face it: Being right is nowhere near as important getting right.
Summer league was an experiment. It was at the time a way of trying to reach a compromise between some highly polarized opinions on “what’s next”. Regardless of the actual league failing or not, as an experiment it’s a success. An experiment that will help us getting it right the next Summer. In between, there’s still almost half a Summer League left with interesting action going on in 5 other divisions.
Like I said, I don’t know much about running a league… And I can’t judge the quality of decisions behind the scenes. But I am grateful that people dedicate time and effort to this game we all love, people such as the admin team at ETF2L.
So how about it boys and girls, what have you done for TF2? And more importantly, what can you do in the time to come?
I’d like to round off this small rant with a retrospective to a poll we asked before the AFS started.
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(And for the record, Coldfront wasn’t that fucking bad once I played it with a proper team)
-Torden
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- # - nice! +1coldfront for s8
- # - nice! +5there are few people in this community that actually care enough about the game/community to do something for it
plenty of people who like to do something for their own self-worth, under the guise of “something for the community”
hello adam-skyride :)
- # - nice! +5<3
- # - nice! +0first, they unban braffle, grysor and everyone else they’ve wrongfully deleted. d2m then steps down and turns it over to the people who made etf2l great to play in before: day, jonni, weqo and so on. this will let the good admins work again, like mihalch and others, who is not put ‘in the backseat’. THINK! _NOTHING_ good has come of the last 3 ‘seasons’. NOTHING! Not hard to understand why?
- # - nice! +0Majority of people do nothing for the community, including me, yet they continue to blame others for not doing enough or giving up when the going gets tough.
Also, I don’t see how the AFS has been that big a failure. The majority of ETF2L is Div 5/6 by a long way, those divs have seen relatively few drops and matches are being played, so for the majority alls good.
Atleast this season has shown that Coldfront isn’t as bad as we thought it would be.
- # - nice! +3:D yeah it’s all 100% down to ETF2L and nothing to do with the ups and downs of the game itself
- # - nice! +0“turns it over to the people who made etf2l great to play in before: day,”
rofl
- # - nice! +7I prefer Coldfront over Gorge, Well or Turbine any day
- # - nice! +5i actually enjoyed gorge :(
- # - nice! +2good community
- # - nice! +3very
- # - nice! +2shit game
- # - nice! +0Blaming the players for a league decision was always going to be popular!
- # - nice! +0D2M may not be the perfect admin but you cannot really say nothing good has come of the last seasons. this is not from my POV as i loved turbine, well or gorge but most of the community would prefer to play one shitty or mediocre map then 3. besides that, the ladder did a good job of filling the gap between s7 and AFS, and it still can be perfected, the recruitment section was made instead of the bad recruitment forums (this happened within the last 3 seasons, so.) and most importantly its now actually fun to read etf2l. the older admins, and most of the current ones are just bland as fuck to read – they do a good job but not in publicity. D2Ms words are actually remembered because they sound lively not like the chewed gravy of my fucking grand father
- # - nice! +0oh yeah and for anyone who is having some doubts about our community, please go over to cadred and read the Cyprus National team thread.
- # - nice! +0d from the ETF2L propaganda admin-department steps in. TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE!
- # - nice! +0LOL the irony of what you say if you would know who i actually am :D
- # - nice! +0now look what youve done, daykiller will come back and the black clouds will set on the sun ._. his banhammers will blot out the sun
- # - nice! +1link to Cyprus National Team thread plz
- # - nice! +0^ this XD
- # - nice! +0www.cadred.org/Forums/Thread/1...
- # - nice! +0(15:58:23) (Psunfragga) i do
(15:58:38) (Nightbox) cool
(15:58:40) (Psunfragga) but im much better at assessing problems/solutions and talking to other ppl etc
I lol’d
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didn’t think so…
- # - nice! +4hilarious as always.
- # - nice! +416:42:20 • Parts: psunfragga (~1010_Psun@Psunfragga.users.quakenet.org)
:DD
- # - nice! +2Cleared out my pc ;D
- # - nice! +0hey can you two above me keep going, I’m super interested.
- # - nice! +5lol i own u at sc2
- # - nice! +0d – that Cyprus thread creator is a troll… that’s a typical troll attempt on cadred, so your point is sort of invalid regarding that it
lol
- # - nice! +0i dont know, slurring racial hatred on every post is not YET what cadred has become. if he’s a troll, he definitely got out trolled by his captain :D
- # - nice! +0i like unicorn
- # - nice! +0Coldfront isn’t the most fun map, but it’s a change from playing Badlands all day. It’s just another 5cp map. As for d2m: pity.
- # - nice! +0hahah dunc :D
- # - nice! +0STV??
- # - nice! +0