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Ritalin — After four weeks of top 9v9 action, we have our ETF2L Highlander Nations Cup Finalists. Although these teams started as outside contenders for the title, 
Germany and 
France destroyed their opponents in the group stages and battled their way through the intense playoff matches convincingly. With a prize pool of £1200 up for grabs, both teams will no doubt be giving it their all in an effort to take home the cash!
Germany
BasH , KLar, ipz, Thy, bsh, ThUn, HomerJ, Stefan, Bighomer
cest
Aug
13th
France
Flippy, T-Mac, Fl1p, Degun, Mista, Tek, Pognon, Flaoua, Daff
ETF2L Highlander Nations Cup
(31 comments)
TIME
- Monday August 13th
- 21:15 cest
- 15:15 edt (na)
- 05:15 est (aus)
CASTED BY
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Who will win this match?
- France (54%, 33 Votes)
- Germany (46%, 28 Votes)
Total Voters: 61
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The Germans may have suffered a loss in the 6v6 tournament yesterday, but the Highlander team will looking to capitalise on their momentum gained after knocking out 9v9 favourites 
Sweden. Germany look to be very strong on ctf_converge and it’s no surprise they’ve chosen the map for the final. Their roster is stacked with top players including team captain Thy, possible Crack Clan recruit Ipz as well as Epsilon’s BasH and stefan.
The French squad also has its fair share of 6v6 talent. Tonight’s lineup will most likely feature Premier Division stars Flippy and Tek of Team Punchline, as well as current Nitrose scout dONut. 
KritzKast spy Daff has also had an unbelievable tournament so far and is always worth keeping an eye on. France’s map pick for tonight is koth_viaduct, and while they edged past 
Ukraine on it comfortably enough, it’s a map they’ve only played once so far in this cup.
I caught up with Thy and Daff to get their thoughts on tonight’s matchup:
Thy: After we won every map in this tournament so far we feel very good that we can continue that streak and win vs France tonight. If Flippy has a good day and good protection by his team mates he could be a game changer for them. Like in the past games we will just focus on our Deathmatch skills and just play super aggressive and we hope that’s gonna help us win against France.
Daff: I must say that personally, I feel pretty confident about our chances of winning the final. Even though the semi-final was intense I feel like we have what it takes to win this. We are expecting more stronger individualities from Germany but if we can get a good team play to work, this is gonna be a great match to watch.
It’s been an amazing tournament so far and this match will be no exception. 
Admirable and 
Comedian will be covering the action for VanillaTV, so we hope to see you there!
31 comments
Tweetfrance to win this!
gl both teams
- # - nice! +4www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/...
- # - nice! +4Germany will win! :)
- # - nice! +0VIVE LA REVOLUTION
- # - nice! +5VIVE DAFF
Allez la France !
- # - nice! +1gogo France
- # - nice! +1Casted by Eclypsia (French stream): www.eclypsia.com/fr/ec/webtv-g...
- # - nice! +0Almost 2000 viewers watching a guy named Cockwizard wipe the floor with the Frenchies. Way to promote tf2. dunc’s Buttercunt from the Season 10 finals is a close second.
heavens no! the 50 spectators tf2 usually gets will be whittled down to just 49 people now because one person who was raised by an upper class family and lived a sheltered life cannot stand the sight of swear words!
Cockwizard isn’t a swear word, Alex.
- # - nice! +0dont hate on the cockwizard
- # - nice! +3Cockwizard for president.
- # - nice! +5gg
- # - nice! +2Awesome work, german bunnies. Well deserved.
- # - nice! +0Open question to you viewers:
As experienced players, we have adopted certain slang terms and abbreviations that we use regularly. Not all of these are familiar to outsiders. As our audience has grown recently and now consists of a larger portion of outsiders, perhaps our lingo should reflect that? I am of course mainly talking about the commentators. I think they do a good job of explaining the mechanics of the game to our new audience, and I think they can adjust further by making their lingo more friendly to newcomers as well.
Here are some examples of words that could perhaps be made easier to understand (to a varying degree) by not using the needlessly abbreviated version:
cap = capture (point)
comp = competitive
CP = capture point
crit = critical
ctf = capture the flag
demo = demoman
engie = engineer
intel = flag/intelligence
pipe = pipe bomb
pub = public (server)
sentry = sentry gun
sticky = sticky bomb
über = über charge
Your thoughts?
- # - nice! +4Or we could stop treating every potential player interested in competitive TF2 as a complete retard who must be nurtured at our teat.
Those abbreviations are used by the entire TF2 community and beyond.
- # - nice! +2I think that is a very arrogant and unproductive attitude to have. Sadly, it’s common in many communities, both among community members and staff members.
“You think the rule pages are too complex? Piss off. If you don’t care enough to find what you’re looking for, we don’t care enough about helping you.”
“You’re too lazy to install mIRC? Then you’re too lazy to schedule your matches. Go choke on a dick.”
“You don’t know what ‘demo stickying intel with crit stickies’ means? lol retard even halo players know that”
That’s the kind of attitude I’ve seen time and time again among players and admins. In the end, it is merely a convenient excuse for not applying self-criticism to your community and putting effort into improving it. It is based on the false assumption that the newcomer is only valuable to us if his interest in joining us is higher than the threshold at our entrance. It turns our flaws into merits. It turns our barriers into filters. It’s an excuse.
It should absolutely be a top priority among all volunteers to make our threshold as low possible. The suggestion I brought up is merely a small way of doing so, without any effort or negative side effects. If you are against it, at least present some logical arguments, rather than blurting out regurgitated phrases.
- # - nice! +5It has nothing to do with arrogance. All of the words/phrases you highlighted are either commonly used in other games or are so simple and obvious that anyone could understand them after 2 minutes of observation and association. It’s an overly pedantic proposal that wouldn’t really achieve anything.
- # - nice! +6If that is your true assessment, then I respect it. I certainly don’t agree with it; it seems rather skewed to me.
I think you’re exaggerating a bit as well. I did say it’s only a small and effortless detail, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s “overly pedantic”, treats players like “complete retards” who must be “nurtured at our teat”, and won’t “achieve anything”. I think it’s simply a good detail that the commentators should consider. If they agree, that’s great. If they disagree, even better. Either way, it’s nothing to get rhetorically dramatic about.
- # - nice! +1out of interest, if you watch any competitive sport do you notice the commentators ever do this, or any other esport?
- # - nice! +4Sure, in basketball for a Swedish audience for example (their audience is relatively small and not as familiar with the sport as they are with football or ice hockey).
- # - nice! +0thats very specific, it doesnt happen in England – even with obscure sports, and it doesn’t happen with any competitive esport that I can think of/I have watched
- # - nice! +0Sorry. I didn’t realize it was only a rhetorical question.
- # - nice! +0It is a nice initiative, but it is not needed.
People catch on to what they watch, they know how to x+y=z .
You are probably saying this in light of the spotlight we are getting on Twitch. ( which is amazing considering I have never seen TF2 show up on the main page as one of the games with most collective viewers on Twitch. How did that partnership happen?)
Anybody that doesn’t understand what is going on can/will ask in the Twitch chat, where a million people can answer it.
- # - nice! +1I watched a couple minutes of the game yesterday, Skully and some other guy were moderating the chat. I’m pretty sure if any new guy came up, they probably answered his questions. (Wouldn’t be surprised if that happened)
I’m sure you’re right. The few times I’ve joined in on the IRC/Twitch chat, people were indeed really good at answering questions and being friendly. I hope that holds true for all matches, because it’s really nice to see. Props to them.
- # - nice! +0Having a cast that flows good and sounds exciting is more important than being accurate to the letter. I don’t think you get people excited in tf2 by educating them about everything in the game, at least not in a cast; granted there should be knowledge and analysis. Giving a good show will entice more. Now the two doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive, but I suspect that having casters being too self-conscious will make it a lot more stale.
- # - nice! +2Casters just need to not overstep their abilities. If you don’t have a flourishing understanding of high level play, then don’t try to. Salamancer is a pretty good example of this. He does an excellent play by play and only analyses the basics keeping it exciting without frustrating viewers with inaccurate calls.
I completely agree, but as far as vocabulary goes, a sentry gun does not have to be called “a sentry gun” rather than “sentry” for clarity as ashkan proposed. Though I suspect we’re talking about different things – sorry for being unclear above.
- # - nice! +0I slot it in anywhere I can. Maybe one day the message will get through that way!
- # - nice! +0xD
- # - nice! +0Cockwizard for head etf2l admin!
- # - nice! +3gg, nice fun cup
- # - nice! +0