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ETF2L Playoff Spots – ???
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Chaplain — Whenever the word “gulf” pops into my head, I find it very easy to imagine a physical ravine, chasm or abyss, but very rarely do I picture the wide seperation of skill, position and education that has dragged itself onto VanillaTV’s lap tonight, drooling an effervescent stream of potential grandeur and entertainment. I am, of course, referring to the upcoming battle between the majestic 
Epsilon eSports and the downtrodden 
Crack Clan, who desperately need a break after the whitewash we witnessed last week.
Epsilon eSports are currently shining brightly at the peak of the ETF2L after an unbeaten run, however, that could all end today as the heel-biting BFF are only a breath away, with their three point deficit far from insurmountable, a win tonight could really clinch Epsilon’s advantage over their adversaries in the playoffs. The lineup tonight is as follows:
Medic – 
KnOxXx
Demoman - numlocked
Soldiers - 
Mike, GeaR
Scouts - schocky, 
wltrs
I sat down to have a chat with Mike:
On the other hand, Crack Clan have been anything but invicible recently, however I honestly believe they have the ability and cohesion to make a victory possible tonight. Their lineup remains unedited from their recent game versus BFF, however I’m willing to bet things will go differently this time around:
Medic – 
Admirable
Demoman – 
Retsh0ck
Soldiers – 
Minimoose, ipz
Scouts – TviQ, smzi
I had a chat with master strategist Ipz, who gave me his 2 cents on the upcoming scrap:
Now for some predictions:
Lynchpin - Schocky
The German prodigy has been down on his luck recently, with a lacklustre performance in all the officials i’ve seen him play in. Epsilon will need him on his A-game to triumph tonight.
Man to Watch – TviQ
Swedish boy wonder, TviQ, has been playing at the top of his game recently and if he climaxes today, it could be a glorious thing for everyone involved.
Clash to Catch - Numlocked vs Retshock
Two brilliant Demomen, one mid point. I think Numlocked goes into this match with a smug air of superiority after Kaidus got the better of Retshock last game, but today is a new day and the FIFA aficionado is difficult to predict.
Most likely to Choke – Wltrs
I always think its difficult to predict who will choke when there is such a large quantity of experienced players representing their teams in a big game like tonight’s; however the sniping Swede, Wltrs, is unpredictable, and we’ve seen him destroy and be destroyed in equal measure.
The action will begin at 21.15 CEST, featuring the amazing 
Arx & Beta combo and 
Huhy on the stream; see you there!
Crack Clan
tviq, ipz, minimoose, Retsh0ck, smzi, Admirable
Epsilon eSports
Mike, GeaR, schocky, numlocked, KnOxXx, wltrs
ETF2L Season 13 powered by Tt eSPORTS: Week 4 (Premier Division)
(59 comments)
TIME
- Tuesday October 23rd
- 21:15 cest
- 15:15 edt (na)
- 05:15 est (aus)
CASTED BY
- No cast information available
SOURCETV
Who will win this match?
- Epsilon eSports (100%, 1 Votes)
- Crack Clan (0%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters: 1
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- # - nice! +1Moved to Tuesday!
- # - nice! +2You can’t hide forever James.
:D
- # - nice! +0good read yet again, nice Chaplain!
- # - nice! +6wltrs never chokes.
- # - nice! +2inb4 GeaR starts to snipe Admirable all over the place :C
- # - nice! +26 points for Crack Clan.
6 nice! for Admirable.
- # - nice! +2NO MISTAKES
- # - nice! +4OK Wltrs here we go lets settle this here and now i won the last time WILL YOU WIN THIS TIME?! CU ON BITCH!
- # - nice! +3www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/...
- # - nice! +2crack clan gunna win, no doubt
- # - nice! +2all part of the plan dear jelly chicken
- # - nice! +2wltrs going to choke so hard
- # - nice! +1that guy is so inconsistant
- # - nice! +1amiright??
- # - nice! +2orisheright?
- # - nice! +2if process is crack clan’s home map then i guess bff last week committed felonious arson when they burned it to the ground
may the best stefan win
- # - nice! +0www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqzc6...
Reading “it’s our home map” after that aww headshot at 19:55… Nothing personal but cc// med plays like ubernoob whole match. And hes the main cc// problem.
nice face
- # - nice! +0Sebastian “numlocked” Barton won $ 200. Because I promised it if Infused won 5:0 on cp_process. Congratulations, my mate! :D
- # - nice! +7infused best team eu
I must sneis this comment
- # - nice! +0That was my prediction – can I get $5?
- # - nice! +0Yes, you can. Your PayPal email? :D
- # - nice! +2fuck infused
Hey we beat them 5-0 as well on process, can’t I get 200?
- # - nice! +4the url says it’s you playing anyway, bff vs cc
- # - nice! +2Who is this ubernoob anyway?
- # - nice! +1Admirable of course. He is healing like… lvl^Anakin (did you remember that clan?). No strafe. Just standing (often in a very poor positions) and healing.
But this isn’t surprising since ETF2L have only one true Prem Division team (Team!) – Epsilon. Nothing interesting to spec in ETF2L S13 Prem. Only Epsilon vs Prem noobs with clear victory (it’s bored a bit) or Prem noobs vs Prem noobs (loled & uberfacepalmed a lot with a pint of beer). :D
I am the poster boy for the decline of European TF2!
- # - nice! +6European TF2 history is a history of admins’ mistakes. In a chronological order:
1. Pug1 die because “pros” gone to pug2. Pug1 was a very important “social lift” where noobs (like me) can plays with stars like 4K^Mick, wotr^numlocked and others. I offered $ 500 per month as prize for best player for PixelPickup, but Skyride was too lazy for implementing voting (or reputation) system in the Pixel pug bot.
2. Cinnamon. All thanks to RaCio.
3. Maps. Removing the best TEAM map cp_gravelpit where team tactics > team spam. Decline to support best European mapmakers – Arnold (cp_croissant) and DarkSlayer (cp_toxic). Buggy cp_process or terrible cp_obscure_final instead.
4. Unlocks & prizes. NAlocks + good cash prize can be attractive for NA teams and then we probably have a real Prem div, not a Prem parody like now.
5. NetSky and Crasp leave TF2 admin’s crew. Finally only kids there and this isn’t attractive to potential sponsors.
3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HtuV2...
- # - nice! +4“I offered $ 500 per month as prize for best player for PixelPickup, but Skyride was too lazy for implementing voting (or reputation) system in the Pixel pug bot.”
Excuse me? I declined because it was a horrendous idea and you weren’t interested in any of the other suggestions I had.
Everything you’ve said there is disgustingly offensive. By all means feel free to throw money around, but you have never done a damn fucking thing in this community. Who the fuck do you think you are?
How is that a horrible idea, exactly? There might of been better ones, but the guy with the cash generally gets a lot of sway….
- # - nice! +6Kaidus: The specifics were that he wanted to able to make it so that people could vote for who they thought was the best player in the pug, and then each month there would be prizes given, the other idea was to give it to the player with the most wins. There was no way to do it which didn’t just reward either the person with the most friends or the guy with no job/life that played the most games. That wasn’t a system I was too keen on. You know how bad people are about MGE and that’s just points, imagine how bad it would be if actual cash was involved?
- # - nice! +4Kaidus: Two ideas:
1. After pug people voting for MVP of the match in their or opposite team (not for himself for sure). For example: “Hudders strong pocketed me, +1″ or “Dat Kodyl from opposite team! He is true pyromaniac! +1″.
2. Month of __ TF2 class. After pug people voting for MVP of the match in their or opposite team but only for __ class (not for himself). For example: “Numlocked is carried whole match. Amazing pipes!+1″ or ” Kaidus dominated all their team! +1″.
$ 500 for the winner. We talked once, and after that no msgs – Skyride tryharding in Dota 2 silently. ;)
- # - nice! +4It would be really cool if negotiations could resume if and when the web based pixelpickup is done.
- # - nice! +2I feel I should at least make a few comments on this…
1. Throwing money at the player with the largest circle of friends does not necessarily improve the overall level of play. I would even dare to say it does the opposite. It creates envy and resentment among the players. The best player/team should win a competition, not the one with the largest circle jerk behind him (at least in my opinion)
2. Can’t argue with the fact that the Season 9 boycott hurt the scene at that time but it may be worth pointing out that other leagues failed to provide an alternative that was accepted. Overall, I think the scene recovered pretty good from that.
3. I had the impression that gravelpit was never liked by low tier players. During the last 3 seasons, many high level players said they dislike gravelpit becuase one single mistake by one player can decide a whole round. On the base of this feedback, it got removed from the Season 13 map pool.
I don’t know how you define “declining support” but ETF2L and its admins have hosted a couple of competitions with croissant and toxic also got its chance in a tournament. Did you know that the toxic map maker does not continue the development at the moment? Process was (and still is) supported by the best players in both Europe and NA, if you find any bugs let me know and I will forward them to the map maker. obscure got voted in by the players last season, I agree that it was a mistake to let the community directly vote the map pool (which is why this idea was abandoned for the last season).
4. Do you honestly believe more than one token NA team would play on European servers and at European times?
5. Netsky did not leave the staff, he only took a break for exams. He is fully active again since last month. I do not know how you define “kid” (average age in the staff should be around ~22 years) and what you know about the sponsorship negotiations of ETF2L at the moment but your comment makes me think you know nothing about that.
Why are you so bitter?
Excellent 1.bp.blogspot.com/-sCHtzoE2HGw...
- # - nice! +3Well I still like angel. Screw you guys.
- # - nice! +3A bit of a reality check:
Pickup1 and Pickup2 were historically both active in the same period. I think it was fairly obvious at the time that the rise of TF2Lobby is what “killed” Pickup1. It’s worth nothing that there was Pickup.Invite(?) before Pickup2 i.e. there has always been a tiered pickup system.
The removal of Gravelpit and the addition of Process actually came about from asking the Prem teams for feedback before the start of Season 13.
Unlocks were also discussed during the Prem feedback sessions and publicly through the Idea Box, with the popular consensus being to change nothing. People are definitely open to the idea of adding a few “good” unlocks though, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see incremental changes.
As someone who actually plays TF2, it feels like so far Season 13 has been one of the best run seasons to date, with an increased level of coverage, demos, stats, casting and viewership.
Damn you CanFo! :D
- # - nice! +1trashcan medic
- # - nice! +2The invite pug was still there when the old pug2 was active. That invite pug, however, was extremely inactive. I think there was like 1 or 2 games a month. The skill requirements were also stricter than the current pug2. It was prem (div1 back then) only and only a few div 1 (div2 back then) players. I believe there was another invite pug before that, but I don’t really know because I didn’t play 6v6 at the time.
- # - nice! +0good thing that NA unlocks and prizes helped out the na scene so they are not getting dominated by 1 team atm and have a really stable premier division
I’ll just post Mike’s gif here:
- # - nice! +11.bp.blogspot.com/-sCHtzoE2HGw...
Both croissant and toxic are just as bad as obscure.
- # - nice! +0but I am still here ;_;
- # - nice! +1If this is the Playoff Gulf then does that mean I’m watching the Gulf Stream?
KnoxXx to ddos our matches when we win a round
- # - nice! +7lol numlocked, you are becoming a bitch here :D haha
- # - nice! +1lmao haha
- # - nice! +2hehe
- # - nice! +4höhö
- # - nice! +0cp_toxic cp_crossaint
- # - nice! +1sponsors
Here’s a fun fact, Angel is registered user #1337 on Vanilla.
- # - nice! +6Like a private car registration plate, he probably just bought it with is his shady oligarch money.
Isnt that how it always worked for you Angel, you were throwing money into something until you thought you could control this thing/its rulesets and would refuse to keep on paying this money until its done the way you wanted it? I wonder why you are still arround and in the end you just come arround like a little baby that didnt get his lollipop :D
- # - nice! +3#AngelsCorner
hmmm
- # - nice! +0I love ponies!
- # - nice! +4